WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
6th & 7th September 2014
'Work finally starts on the Project'
Report by Chris Osman. Photos by Paul Colbeck.
Posted : Friday 12th September 2014
Project Commuter started in earnest over the weekend 6/7th September. The Saturday was devoted to a full day induction organised by the National Railway Museum. This is a mandatory process for anyone wishing to take part working on 4308, the benefit is that those attending attain full Volunteer accreditation at the NRM, allowing them to participate in many activities in the Museum, an added advantage is that we get a good discount at the food outlets! As it turned out, it was fortunate that the induction took place in the Search Engine located in the Great Hall as it rained heavily for most of the day, not the sort of weather to start work on cleaning the unit. Sunday came with fine sunny weather, after meeting at 10.15 and having a quick drink before starting, we got down to business.
Had to do a bit of classroom work before going outside in the rain!
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Our first visit to the 2-HAP as a group.
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On a previous visit, attempts had been made to gain access the interior, our efforts were thwarted by most doors stubbornly refusing to open. We allocated three hours to try to get as many door open as possible. Having gained access via a door we knew would open, it didn't take long for Keith Osman, inside, and Chris Osman, outside to get many more doors to open. Most needed some physical help with a gentle boot in the right place, some needed just a good shove to get them open. The other helpers soon got the idea and within an hour we had EVERY saloon door open. This gave us the opportunity to let lots of fresh air in to vent any odours, of which there were few, mainly mustiness from the few seats that had got damp. The next job was to identify all doors in order that when the unit eventually is being restored, the doors will be removed, it is essential to record the correct position for ultimate reassembly It is worth reminding you reader that this is the FIRST time since March 8th 1995 (its last day in service) that every door had been opened, quite an achievement in itself.
Our first get together as a group inside the unit.
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Look all the doors open!
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We then split into two teams to work on each carriage, carefully removing all rubbish much was located under seats apart from that left discarded on the floor. The best of the 'salvage' was bagged up and taken to Shoreham to be recorded and kept safely until we can display it after the unit is restored. We then carefully lifted and removed all seat cushions, each one being inspected for damage. In many cases, bases were also removed to check condition. All seats were carefully noted as to position and seat covering,
A variety of different moquettes were noted on a number of cushions.
A variety of different moquettes were noted on a number of cushions.
Keith cleaning a seat back. It was amazing how good it looked after a bit of hard work. Well done mate!
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The soap is nineteen years old, so no change there!
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Whilst this was going on, Chris Osman tried out our special cleaning agent on various external surfaces. This is to determine what the unit might look like after restoration. The results were astounding! Initial cleaning removed 19 years of grime and weathering, the paintwork had suffered badly from weathering but still looked good from a distance. It was decided to finish the day by cleaning all the saloon doors on one side of one coach. The results are very obvious in the photos taken. Our weekends will be the second of every month up to the point that the unit is relocated for restoration to start. Note there will NOT be any weekend work in December or January.
I do know that many drivers do enjoy gardening but this just doesn't seem right! Yes the fern is actually alive and appears quite healthy....
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Cleaned doors to show what can be done with a bit of hard work, thanks to Chris!
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If anyone wished to be involved with Project Commuter to work on this 'Cinderella' of so
many Southern EMU's, please email Paul Colbeck at [email protected]
many Southern EMU's, please email Paul Colbeck at [email protected]
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Can someone close
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Finally I wish to thank Paul Colbeck for all his organising skills and to Anthony Coulls and the NRM team that have been so very supportive of our society and the project.
Chris Osman - NSERS Chairman
Chris Osman - NSERS Chairman
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
11th & 12th October 2014
Report by Chris Osman. Photos by Paul Colbeck.
Posted : Friday 17th October 2014
On the Saturday, the team met up at 10.00 in the Great Hall. We were joined by Bob Gwynne, Asst. Curator, Rail Vehicle Collection who had offered to spend the day with us. It is great that he wanted to help us with the project which shows the commitment of the NRM team. The unit, staying in the open in South Yard, enabled us to use copious amounts of water without causing problems in the Depot. The weather being dry enabled us to work on the exterior cleaning. Bob Gwynne and Nick Stevens were soon hard at washing the paintwork with our super cleaning agent, Bob applying it, Nick hosing it off. Unfortunately the hose lacked a nozzle, Nick, with thumb directing the water got soaked in the process! Paul Colbeck and Mark Davies were up in the unit cleaning and sorting cushions.
Bob cleaning the paintwork.
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Robert cleaning the underframe.
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Nick swapped places to open the standard saloon toilet door which had been screwed shut, Paul took some pictures for reference. Rob Curtis and Nick started cleaning the underframe, the Shildon pressure washer brought down by Anthony Coulls made no impression so they resorted to removing the thick layer of brake dust by hand (with a hammer and screwdriver!!) Nick also tried to remove the internal door panels to reveal the lazy tongs / scissors. Many panels were tried and some screws did come out.
Paul checks the second class toilet to find soap and paper towels still there after 19 years!
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Ever wondered how a slam door drop light works?
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By the end of the day, only two panels were completely removed. The side of the vehicles which will be closest to the public were cleaned. We were all pleased with the progress made. Thanks to Bob Gwynne for spending the all day with us.
Sunday turned out fine again. Taking advantage of the good weather Chris Osman and Dave Adams got to work cleaning the other side of the unit. This side is in much worse condition probably due to its position when stored before arriving at York.Rob Curtis, Paul Colbeck started removing 19 years of dirt from the cushions and backs. Many cushions were passed outside for Rob and Mark Battle (working on the public side of the fence as he has yet to have his induction) to knock six bells out of them to remove years of dust. Rob then applied the magic cleaner which brought them back to life. Most looked as good as new.
Sunday turned out fine again. Taking advantage of the good weather Chris Osman and Dave Adams got to work cleaning the other side of the unit. This side is in much worse condition probably due to its position when stored before arriving at York.Rob Curtis, Paul Colbeck started removing 19 years of dirt from the cushions and backs. Many cushions were passed outside for Rob and Mark Battle (working on the public side of the fence as he has yet to have his induction) to knock six bells out of them to remove years of dust. Rob then applied the magic cleaner which brought them back to life. Most looked as good as new.
Seat cleaning in operation.
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Cleaning seat covers and talking to the visitors in the sunshine.
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Jim Chittock joined us today and set about removing more door panels. Most internal fittings on the ‘bad’ side of the unit are in poor condition. This will help in future restoration. We finished by selecting the best saloon, fitting it out with cleaned cushions and some cleaned backs. At the November weekend, Chris Green will be able to sit in a saloon which looks pretty good.With both sides of the unit now cleaned, we are hoping that it will be moved into the ‘Depot’ in the next week or so.
Some good work carried out this weekend! The seat covers are almost dry after cleaning.
Thanks to Mark Davies, Nick Stevens, Bob Gwynne (Sat), Dave Adams, Jim Chittock, Mark Battle (Sun),
Paul Colbeck, Rob Curtis, Chris Osman both days.
Paul Colbeck, Rob Curtis, Chris Osman both days.
GREAT NEWS !!! THE UNIT MOVES INTO THE DEPOT
Report by Chris Osman. Photos by Bob Gwynne, NRM.
Posted : Wednesday 5th November 2014
For the first time in many years 2Hap 4308 was finally moved on the 5th November 2014 from open storage into the ‘Depot’ building in the South Yard at the National Railway Museum, York. We believe that this is the first time the unit is in secure,
covered accommodation since withdrawal in March 1995 The unit was stabled in the Depot for a time in 2009.
covered accommodation since withdrawal in March 1995 The unit was stabled in the Depot for a time in 2009.
4308 about to go under cover!
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4308 entering the "depot".
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MORE VOLUNTEERS JOIN THE THE PROJECT
Report by Chris Osman.
Posted : Friday 7th November 2014
The first 9 NSERS volunteers to be inducted by the NRM, an essential requirement by the NRM to enable us to carry out activities on the unit, took place in September, Three more volunteers attended their induction on the 7th November bringing the team to 12.
Any more people who are interested in getting their hands dirty preparing the unit for its cosmetic restoration,
contact Paul Colbeck by email at [email protected]. Further inductions will take place as numbers allow.
Any more people who are interested in getting their hands dirty preparing the unit for its cosmetic restoration,
contact Paul Colbeck by email at [email protected]. Further inductions will take place as numbers allow.
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
8th & 9th November 2014
'The official launch of Project Commuter by Chris Green'
Report by Chris Osman. Photos by Paul Colbeck.
Posted : Monday 17th November 2014
Launch Day - Saturday 8th November:
Our President, Chris Green, had been invited to formally launch the restoration of 4308.
There was much activity before Chris Green’s arrival to do some final sprucing up of the exterior and interior of the unit. Anthony Coulls, Head of Rail Vehicle Collection and Bob Gwynne Asst. Curator Rail Vehicle Collection, NRM working alongside the volunteer team.
Chris duly arrived and was met by Anthony Coulls, Bob Gwynne and
Chris Osman, Chairman, Network SouthEast Railway Society also the Project Manager, Project Commuter.
Our President, Chris Green, had been invited to formally launch the restoration of 4308.
There was much activity before Chris Green’s arrival to do some final sprucing up of the exterior and interior of the unit. Anthony Coulls, Head of Rail Vehicle Collection and Bob Gwynne Asst. Curator Rail Vehicle Collection, NRM working alongside the volunteer team.
Chris duly arrived and was met by Anthony Coulls, Bob Gwynne and
Chris Osman, Chairman, Network SouthEast Railway Society also the Project Manager, Project Commuter.
4308 is waiting for Chris Green's imminent arrival !!
Chris Green arrives and is met by Bob, Anthony & Chris Osman.
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Bob & Chris informing Chris Green more about the Project.
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Chris Green was first shown the interior of the Standard Saloon of motor coach 61275, this has been cleaned, with special attention to the seats and backs. Taking into account that the unit has languished for over 19 years meant that there was a substantial amount of dirt and dust much of it from its final weeks in service. Chris commented on the hard work it must have taken to return the saloon to such good condition. Plenty of photos were taken of Chris sitting in one of ‘his’ trains!
Chris was then shown the cab, more photo opportunities!.
Bob Gwynne explained the relationship that had developed between the society and the NRM, then it was time for the official launch.
Chris was then shown the cab, more photo opportunities!.
Bob Gwynne explained the relationship that had developed between the society and the NRM, then it was time for the official launch.
Chris Green relaxing in the saloon of 61275.
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Chris Green looking out of the cab of 61275.
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Chris Green complimented the society volunteers for the sprucing up so far achieved, he went on to express pleasure that the NRM had joined forces with the NSERS and its dedicated team of volunteers to raise the £150k needed to bring the unit up to display condition. Whilst the interiors are in reasonable order, it is expected that 90k will be needed to restore the roof and replace the body subframe and body side panels which have suffered major corrosion damage due to being stored in the open for 19 years. This work can only be carried out by specialist contractors. Chris continued to state It is our aim to cosmetically restore the unit in time to mark the 30th anniversary of the launch of Network SouthEast in June 2016.The 2Hap is fondly remembered by many who travelled in the South East in the 80’s and 90’s – love it or hate it, if you were around the capital at that time you couldn’t fail to notice its colourful livery.
Bob Gwynne added that Project Commuter is a partnership between the NSERS and the NRM which aims to ensure that there is one train secure and in display condition able to tell the story of the growth of London and rail commuting post war. The 2Hap is of particular importance to London and the South East which so makes it sense to work with the Network SouthEast Railway society on this exciting project. Chris Osman acknowledged the help and support given by Anthony Coulls and Bob Gwynne, who have spent much time with the Project team in securing the unit under cover with Bob giving up a day of his own time to help clean the exterior of the unit.
To bring home the importance of the 2Hap in the National Collection some basic detail and a conservative estimate are:
Mileage travelled in the 36 years of service: – 2,684,000
Passengers Carried: - 5.353,920
Anthony and Bob pointed out that this makes 4308 the most travelled and the most passenger carrying vehicles
in the National Collection.
After the speeches a group photo was taken on the access to the motor coach.
Chris then inspected the brilliant display of NSE artefacts mounted by Mark Battle, our excellent webmaster. The display also showed a visual montage of the unit at Shoeburyness 10 years after withdrawal, standing in the open in the South Yard before the Project started, being moved into the Depot and other images of the interior after the volunteers managed to get doors open and access the vehicles.
Chris Green then carried out a ritual slamming of all the doors on one side of the unit reminding everyone of that distinct sound heard at every London station for decades, now a fading memory.
Bob Gwynne added that Project Commuter is a partnership between the NSERS and the NRM which aims to ensure that there is one train secure and in display condition able to tell the story of the growth of London and rail commuting post war. The 2Hap is of particular importance to London and the South East which so makes it sense to work with the Network SouthEast Railway society on this exciting project. Chris Osman acknowledged the help and support given by Anthony Coulls and Bob Gwynne, who have spent much time with the Project team in securing the unit under cover with Bob giving up a day of his own time to help clean the exterior of the unit.
To bring home the importance of the 2Hap in the National Collection some basic detail and a conservative estimate are:
Mileage travelled in the 36 years of service: – 2,684,000
Passengers Carried: - 5.353,920
Anthony and Bob pointed out that this makes 4308 the most travelled and the most passenger carrying vehicles
in the National Collection.
After the speeches a group photo was taken on the access to the motor coach.
Chris then inspected the brilliant display of NSE artefacts mounted by Mark Battle, our excellent webmaster. The display also showed a visual montage of the unit at Shoeburyness 10 years after withdrawal, standing in the open in the South Yard before the Project started, being moved into the Depot and other images of the interior after the volunteers managed to get doors open and access the vehicles.
Chris Green then carried out a ritual slamming of all the doors on one side of the unit reminding everyone of that distinct sound heard at every London station for decades, now a fading memory.
A group photo with 4308.
Chris Green is shown the display accompanied by Chris & Mark.
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The Society display with driving cab of 61275 looking on !!
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While this was taking place, Jim Chittock, one of our star volunteers who had worked on slam door units in York Works had been frantically working to release the first side window which Chris Green ceremoniously removed! It was noted that all windows will need to be taken out prior to the bodyside reskinning. Jim Chittock started his career at York Carriage works as an apprentice in the 1970’s. He had assembled hundreds of interiors in his role as a vehicle coach builder, now it was his turn to dismantle the interiors of 4308.
Jim has been demonstrating and teaching the society volunteers in the methods used to remove and repair / restore the interiors and doors. He has worked hard to get so much done to achieve the status at the time of writing.
Jim has been demonstrating and teaching the society volunteers in the methods used to remove and repair / restore the interiors and doors. He has worked hard to get so much done to achieve the status at the time of writing.
Jim working hard preparing the first window glass to be removed.
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Chris Green touches the first window to be removed by Jim in a ceremony.
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Chris Green then departed, allowing the team to get on with the preparation work for the rest of the afternoon.
Mark Battle met members of the public and explained what was happening to the unit.
An excellent public relation exercise resulting in our first financial donations to the project.
Mark Battle met members of the public and explained what was happening to the unit.
An excellent public relation exercise resulting in our first financial donations to the project.
Sunday 9th November:
Jim Chittock arrived early. He was found stripping out luggage racks! The volunteers continued to strip out all the seats of the
standard saloon in 61275. This took much longer than expected as many of the fixings had rusted.
Every component has been labelled to enable the vehicle to be reassembled once the heavy restoration has been completed.
Jim continued to explain and demonstrate how to remove every component in the saloon.
Jim Chittock arrived early. He was found stripping out luggage racks! The volunteers continued to strip out all the seats of the
standard saloon in 61275. This took much longer than expected as many of the fixings had rusted.
Every component has been labelled to enable the vehicle to be reassembled once the heavy restoration has been completed.
Jim continued to explain and demonstrate how to remove every component in the saloon.
Jim removing seat frames, with Mark observing the method used.
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All seats removed in 61275 second class nearest brake by the team.
61275 brake van no longer looks empty !!
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In summary the volunteer team have now stripped the first standard saloon.
Jim Chittock, Keith and Chris Osman dismantled the seat frames. John Piper carefully marked up and labelled every piece that was dismantled. Mark Davis, Paul Colbeck and Keith Osman cleared the brakevan of shoe beams; Mark Davis carefully stored all components from the saloon in the van ready for us to start refurbishing them in the New Year. Rob Curtis started to remove the accumulated brake dust and corrosion from the underframe later joined by Keith Osman and Paul Colbeck.
Of the items removed from the saloon, some seats and backs have been given a primary clean, door panels have been removed to reveal the scissors and glass channel. Although the scissors are in good shape, the channel holding the door glass is very badly corroded. These must be replaced once we have sourced replacements.
Thanks to Jim Chittock, most tasks have been tried out; we look forward to many hours in the New Year working through the other saloon in the motor coach and the whole of the composite trailer coach stripping out the interiors ready for the
vehicles to go away for structural restoration. The day finished with a major tidy up.
To join the restoration team email Paul Colbeck at [email protected]
Jim Chittock, Keith and Chris Osman dismantled the seat frames. John Piper carefully marked up and labelled every piece that was dismantled. Mark Davis, Paul Colbeck and Keith Osman cleared the brakevan of shoe beams; Mark Davis carefully stored all components from the saloon in the van ready for us to start refurbishing them in the New Year. Rob Curtis started to remove the accumulated brake dust and corrosion from the underframe later joined by Keith Osman and Paul Colbeck.
Of the items removed from the saloon, some seats and backs have been given a primary clean, door panels have been removed to reveal the scissors and glass channel. Although the scissors are in good shape, the channel holding the door glass is very badly corroded. These must be replaced once we have sourced replacements.
Thanks to Jim Chittock, most tasks have been tried out; we look forward to many hours in the New Year working through the other saloon in the motor coach and the whole of the composite trailer coach stripping out the interiors ready for the
vehicles to go away for structural restoration. The day finished with a major tidy up.
To join the restoration team email Paul Colbeck at [email protected]
2HAP REVIEW MEETING - 12th January 2015
Report by Chris Osman.
Posted : Tuesday 20th January 2015
Chris Osman, Chairman, attended a meeting at the National Railway Museum on the 12th January to review progress on the restoration of the 2Hap unit 4308 and to discuss the programme for the next 5 months.
Present: Anthony Coulls, Head of Rail Vehicle Collection; Bob Gwynne, Asst. Curator, Rail Vehicles; Matt Hick, Volunteer Officer; Richard Pearson, Engineering, NRM Shildon and Chris Osman NSERS Chairman. Paul Colbeck was unable to attend.
Matt introduced Richard who had been invited to represent Shildon NRM workshop.
Matt reviewed Phase one of the project with feedback from Anthony, Bob and myself. It was noted that the attendance of Chris Green in November had made a major impact to raise the profile of the project and the aims and objectives of the partnership between the society and the National Railway Museum. It was also recognised that as a result of the above, the interest in the media and railway press had been good for the NRM and the society.
Anthony advised all that there is now a good probability of the heavy engineering work being carried out by the engineering team at Shildon. It is still to be confirmed by the senior team at NRM that funds can be found to do the work.
Richard was asked for his views. He stated that the unit had been assessed; it was considered that patch repairs to the worst corroded areas could suffice rather than major reskinning, the full extent will not be determined until all the paint is removed to expose the base metalwork. Chris commented that as the unit would NOT be running on the Network and would only move at low speed in local movements at York, is to ensure that the vehicles are given a thorough covering of rust preventative protection with a quality primer and undercoat before finishing with two pack top coat. This should avoid ingress of water from paint defects / cracks. Richard agreed, these points were most relevant if the vehicles were to spend time outside however Shildon does not have the equipment necessary to apply two pack paint. Richard provided us with a formal estimate for the job which includes employing two members of staff dedicated to the project and materials. This will be considered when seeking funding.
We looked at the work that may be carried out by the volunteers. Bob and Chris outlined what had been started and what we thought could be done at York. This included refurbishment of the saloon doors, interior fittings, seats backs underframe etc. It was suggested that the removal of brake dust on the bogies could be done more efficiently at Shildon, the main frames being done by the team at York.
Doors and window glass: Various options were discussed, it was agreed that if approval is given for the work to be carried out at Shildon, we would revisit whether to remove glass at York or Shildon. Shildon could remove doors and return them to York for refurbishment and remove only that glass that would have to be taken out to repair the body side at Shildon. There is concern regarding the ‘U’ section channel at the top of the scissors which supports the window glass. In most doors checked, the channel has corroded to a point of complete failure. Richard will try to source some replacement section either in lengths or cut to size.
Anthony and Bob would take all these issues and further discuss with Andrew Maclean, Head of Collections at York. We will await the outcome to see if the project will go forward.
The issue of NSERS fundraising was raised. The recommendation is that the society should be looking to raise at least £10,000 to support the initial stage of the restoration including movement by road from York. From the appeal sent out by Chris Green in November, some £2000 + had been donated. It has been calculated that we have so far contributed around £2500 in volunteer time spent up to the end of 2014.The society needs to find ways to raise at least another £10,000 by March 2015 to get the project started at Shildon and to fund equipment for the volunteers to start work on the parts to be refurbished at York. A number of suggestions were made including a fundraising dinner with Chris Green as guest speaker; an appeal via the free London newspapers (Metro & Evening Standard). Any other suggestions would be welcome. Anthony will make an approach to the Friends of the NRM (South) as a possible source of support.
Chris raised a number of issues, including the provision of plastic sheet to protect the 4ft under the unit, a location to store the interior fittings and doors after removal from the unit. The ex NSE GUV standing outside the great hall could be the solution however inspection after the meeting suggested otherwise.
Also mentioned was the omission in the 2Hap 4308 website history, that the unit was chosen by the Railway Heritage Committee for preservation.
Present: Anthony Coulls, Head of Rail Vehicle Collection; Bob Gwynne, Asst. Curator, Rail Vehicles; Matt Hick, Volunteer Officer; Richard Pearson, Engineering, NRM Shildon and Chris Osman NSERS Chairman. Paul Colbeck was unable to attend.
Matt introduced Richard who had been invited to represent Shildon NRM workshop.
Matt reviewed Phase one of the project with feedback from Anthony, Bob and myself. It was noted that the attendance of Chris Green in November had made a major impact to raise the profile of the project and the aims and objectives of the partnership between the society and the National Railway Museum. It was also recognised that as a result of the above, the interest in the media and railway press had been good for the NRM and the society.
Anthony advised all that there is now a good probability of the heavy engineering work being carried out by the engineering team at Shildon. It is still to be confirmed by the senior team at NRM that funds can be found to do the work.
Richard was asked for his views. He stated that the unit had been assessed; it was considered that patch repairs to the worst corroded areas could suffice rather than major reskinning, the full extent will not be determined until all the paint is removed to expose the base metalwork. Chris commented that as the unit would NOT be running on the Network and would only move at low speed in local movements at York, is to ensure that the vehicles are given a thorough covering of rust preventative protection with a quality primer and undercoat before finishing with two pack top coat. This should avoid ingress of water from paint defects / cracks. Richard agreed, these points were most relevant if the vehicles were to spend time outside however Shildon does not have the equipment necessary to apply two pack paint. Richard provided us with a formal estimate for the job which includes employing two members of staff dedicated to the project and materials. This will be considered when seeking funding.
We looked at the work that may be carried out by the volunteers. Bob and Chris outlined what had been started and what we thought could be done at York. This included refurbishment of the saloon doors, interior fittings, seats backs underframe etc. It was suggested that the removal of brake dust on the bogies could be done more efficiently at Shildon, the main frames being done by the team at York.
Doors and window glass: Various options were discussed, it was agreed that if approval is given for the work to be carried out at Shildon, we would revisit whether to remove glass at York or Shildon. Shildon could remove doors and return them to York for refurbishment and remove only that glass that would have to be taken out to repair the body side at Shildon. There is concern regarding the ‘U’ section channel at the top of the scissors which supports the window glass. In most doors checked, the channel has corroded to a point of complete failure. Richard will try to source some replacement section either in lengths or cut to size.
Anthony and Bob would take all these issues and further discuss with Andrew Maclean, Head of Collections at York. We will await the outcome to see if the project will go forward.
The issue of NSERS fundraising was raised. The recommendation is that the society should be looking to raise at least £10,000 to support the initial stage of the restoration including movement by road from York. From the appeal sent out by Chris Green in November, some £2000 + had been donated. It has been calculated that we have so far contributed around £2500 in volunteer time spent up to the end of 2014.The society needs to find ways to raise at least another £10,000 by March 2015 to get the project started at Shildon and to fund equipment for the volunteers to start work on the parts to be refurbished at York. A number of suggestions were made including a fundraising dinner with Chris Green as guest speaker; an appeal via the free London newspapers (Metro & Evening Standard). Any other suggestions would be welcome. Anthony will make an approach to the Friends of the NRM (South) as a possible source of support.
Chris raised a number of issues, including the provision of plastic sheet to protect the 4ft under the unit, a location to store the interior fittings and doors after removal from the unit. The ex NSE GUV standing outside the great hall could be the solution however inspection after the meeting suggested otherwise.
Also mentioned was the omission in the 2Hap 4308 website history, that the unit was chosen by the Railway Heritage Committee for preservation.
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
17th & 18th January 2015
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Tuesday 20th January 2015
We are again indebted to Jim Chittock who again worked like a Trojan to complete the stripping out the interior of the Driving Motor Coach. Not only did he achieve that but went on to almost complete the standard saloon in the Driving Trailer Composite. Keith Osman joined Jim to make great progress with the interior stripping on Sunday. Mark Davies has found a niche in being able to store an amazing amount of the fittings in the brake van, then when that was full he moved on into the two inner first class compartments which are now also heaving!
Jim continues his hard work in stripping DMC 61275. Photo - Mark Battle.
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Mark shows how much stuff can really fit in a 'Brake Van'. Photo - Mark Battle
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Rob Curtis spent a good time getting dirty under the DTC continuing with the brake dust removal of the underframe. Chris, Ian helped where we could to remove the many screws and bolts that hold everything together! Chris and Rob made sure that all bits taken out of the saloon were clearly labelled as to the position from whence they came.
Rob - now all suited up. Removes more brake dust from the underframe of 75395. Photo - Bob Gwynne/NRM
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Chris, Mark and Ian. Removing a luggage rack in 61275. Photo - Bob Gwynne/NRM
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Mark Battle arrived on Saturday with his upgraded display and a new slide show on his lap top. Mark spent most of his time explaining to the many visitors what we were doing, in quieter times, he was inside helping with the material relocation. We finished by having a sweep up of all standards saloons. That gives a much better environment to anyone from the museum that may come to see what progress we are making.
The new NSERS display stand in action. Photo - Mark Battle
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Rob and Chris removing racks in the other section of 61275. Photo - Mark Battle
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It is now almost certain that the unit will go (Both cars together) to Locomotion at NRM Shildon.
Before it goes, we have some work to complete so here is an.....
ACTION PLAN: The following list are the jobs that need to be done either before or at the next working weekend.
1. Finish stripping out the Standard and First Class saloons in the DTC.
2. Relocate the material removed for safe keeping at York. I have approached Bob Gwynne to see if we can use the Vep DTC for storage. I await his response as he needs to check this out with Anthony Coulls.
3. If the VEP coach is moved up to the 'Depot' the interior fittings can be transferred into it.
NOTE: THERE MUST BE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE INVOLVED, Make arrangements between yourselves,
for example Nick Stevens and Mark Davies have both offered to help between weekends..
4. Make a start on checking and cleaning seat cushions and backs.
5. Start removing the scissors in the saloon doors in readiness for refurbishment.
6. labelled beforehand. A repeat label needs to be fixed ABOVE each door on the ceiling to ensure we know which door fits where.
7. Door windows: We will have to remove them as the doors are restored. EACH window needs a label to show which door it comes from.
8. Side windows: We don't know which ones will have to be removed at Shildon. As a precaution each piece of glass to be labelled with its relative position, all positions are from the interior.
Before it goes, we have some work to complete so here is an.....
ACTION PLAN: The following list are the jobs that need to be done either before or at the next working weekend.
1. Finish stripping out the Standard and First Class saloons in the DTC.
2. Relocate the material removed for safe keeping at York. I have approached Bob Gwynne to see if we can use the Vep DTC for storage. I await his response as he needs to check this out with Anthony Coulls.
3. If the VEP coach is moved up to the 'Depot' the interior fittings can be transferred into it.
NOTE: THERE MUST BE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE INVOLVED, Make arrangements between yourselves,
for example Nick Stevens and Mark Davies have both offered to help between weekends..
4. Make a start on checking and cleaning seat cushions and backs.
5. Start removing the scissors in the saloon doors in readiness for refurbishment.
6. labelled beforehand. A repeat label needs to be fixed ABOVE each door on the ceiling to ensure we know which door fits where.
7. Door windows: We will have to remove them as the doors are restored. EACH window needs a label to show which door it comes from.
8. Side windows: We don't know which ones will have to be removed at Shildon. As a precaution each piece of glass to be labelled with its relative position, all positions are from the interior.
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
14th & 15th February 2015
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Monday 23rd February 2015
The 14/15th February working weekend was not as productive as we hoped.. Unfortunately, the Vep DTC which is to be the home of the interior fittings while 4308 is away having the external body side corrosion being removed and replated, did not appear. This has resulted in a day delay in transferring the material. Instead we got on with finishing off the final strip out of the last standard saloon. Mark Davies finding space for the remaining pieces - the first class will not need stripping
No longer a no smoking vehicle! Mark D removes the window stickers. Photo - Mark Battle.
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Keith O cleaning up front end of 75395 DTC. Photo - Mark Battle.
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Keith O and Chris O removed the control equipment covers, Keith established that some valves have been robbed from the reverser unit although the other equipment seems to be intact and in reasonable condition. As it was half term, there were many visitors who were kept informed by Mark Battle with his excellent display. Keith also handled some enquiries from younger visitors and their parents; one showed a keen interest with the unit and may even be a railway engineer in time!
Chris O & Keith O removing the equipment covers. Photo - Mark Battle.
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Chris & Keith talks to visitors on our project working weekend. Photo - Mark Battle.
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Sunday kept Chris and Rob busy, freeing up and lubricating door and budget locks. Some doors are binding at the top edge which may be due to the distortion of the body. Thanks to Mark Davies who has offered to create a fresh work plan to reduce any unnecessary work on the unit. More detail on this after we have had further discussions with the Museum.
Chris & Rob freeing up door handle with WD40 on 61275. Photo - Paul Colbeck.
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The enhanced display stand at this working weekend. Photo - Mark Battle.
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FUNDRAISING. The museum has indicated that the society needs to raise £10,000 by March to enable the unit which is unfit to travel by rail, to be moved by road to Shildon. Remaining funds will be used to start work on the unit when the corroded body sections will be removed and new plating inserted along with other structural repairs. Any remaining money will go toward a start on other restoration work on the unit.
Meanwhile, the approved volunteer team will carry on with restoration work that can be achieved at York including the refurbishment of seats, backs and doors.
Since removing the interiors of the standard class saloons, rot has been uncovered in many window surrounds and one section of floor has rotted. This is all work that was not foreseen at the initial inspection of the vehicles and will add to the restoration cost.
The good news is that the original estimate of £200,000 has been reduced by work carried out by the volunteer team. The latest estimate is now around £60,000 but that could increase.
If you can help, in any small way to help us reach the £60,000 target, please send any donation to the Project Commuter Fund, Details are on this website.
If the funding isn't forthcoming, the target of completion by June 2016 might not be achieved.
Meanwhile, the approved volunteer team will carry on with restoration work that can be achieved at York including the refurbishment of seats, backs and doors.
Since removing the interiors of the standard class saloons, rot has been uncovered in many window surrounds and one section of floor has rotted. This is all work that was not foreseen at the initial inspection of the vehicles and will add to the restoration cost.
The good news is that the original estimate of £200,000 has been reduced by work carried out by the volunteer team. The latest estimate is now around £60,000 but that could increase.
If you can help, in any small way to help us reach the £60,000 target, please send any donation to the Project Commuter Fund, Details are on this website.
If the funding isn't forthcoming, the target of completion by June 2016 might not be achieved.
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
14th & 15th March 2015
Photos by Paul Colbeck.
Posted : Monday 16th March 2015
Opening time at the NRM! 3545 ready for use.
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Mark B, Rob & Ian transfer the contents of the HAP onto the VEP.
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Mark D, Ian, Mark B & Rob enjoy a short break at the NRM EMU depot.
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The 2HAP had many seat covers, which is your favourite?
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The VEP is a little full at the moment with 2HAP gear.
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Is this the next project for someone?
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WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
11th & 12th April 2015
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Monday 13th April 2015
The weekend was primarily concerned with removing the axlebox covers from both vehicles in order that 4308 could be Ultrasonic Axle Tested (UAT) ready for its planned move to Shildon two weeks later. (This was subsequently cancelled due to problems with the company charged by the NRM to carry out the move.). 4308 has to have a UAT test to allow it to be moved by rail from the NRM sidings across Network Rail tracks to the site of the old York Carriage works where it will be loaded onto road trailers for transport to Shildon. For those wondering why it couldn’t be moved directly from the NRM sidings is that the access from Leeman Road has a very low bridge at each end, thereby preventing any moves by rail vehicles on low loaders to leave the NRM suite except by the move across to the old works. Network Rail insist, quite reasonably, that any vehicle traversing their infrastructure must be in a fit condition to move. This is achieved by the UAT which confirms that the axles are fit for purpose.
To carry out the UAT, it is necessary for the axlebox covers to be removed to expose the axle ends. With thanks to Keith Osman who kindly brought his RVEL toolkit up to York, we started to remove the covers. We soon encountered our first issue. Having eased the safety tabs, to allow the nuts to be undone, some nuts refused to be loosened! Some axles have two covers which added to the challenge. After using some ‘extensions’ to the spanners we managed to release all covers by late afternoon. We finished by covering the axle ends with protective material to prevent dirt and dust contaminating the axle grease.
To carry out the UAT, it is necessary for the axlebox covers to be removed to expose the axle ends. With thanks to Keith Osman who kindly brought his RVEL toolkit up to York, we started to remove the covers. We soon encountered our first issue. Having eased the safety tabs, to allow the nuts to be undone, some nuts refused to be loosened! Some axles have two covers which added to the challenge. After using some ‘extensions’ to the spanners we managed to release all covers by late afternoon. We finished by covering the axle ends with protective material to prevent dirt and dust contaminating the axle grease.
Todays job was to remove all the axle covers from both vehicles. Paul Colbeck.
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One of the axles with the outer cover removed. Next step was to remove the inner cover which was thankfully a lot easier! Paul Colbeck
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On Sunday, having achieved our objective on the Saturday, we decided to give the Vep coach a clean.
This vehicle is being used as temporary storage of all the soft furnishings and seat frames while 4308 is away at Shildon,
The vehicle will be moved into the Depot occupying the space vacated by the Hap.
This will allow the restoration team to work on the seats and backs and possibly the doors under cover. We considered that it looked very shabby, having been stored in the open since 2004, so a spring clean would make it presentable to the public visiting the Depot.
With our buckets of Red Magic cleaning agent, brooms and brushes, we managed to remove most of the verdigre and dirt.
It was surprising how well the Connex livery came up. It now looks quite acceptable for proper display.
This vehicle is being used as temporary storage of all the soft furnishings and seat frames while 4308 is away at Shildon,
The vehicle will be moved into the Depot occupying the space vacated by the Hap.
This will allow the restoration team to work on the seats and backs and possibly the doors under cover. We considered that it looked very shabby, having been stored in the open since 2004, so a spring clean would make it presentable to the public visiting the Depot.
With our buckets of Red Magic cleaning agent, brooms and brushes, we managed to remove most of the verdigre and dirt.
It was surprising how well the Connex livery came up. It now looks quite acceptable for proper display.
Sunday was VEP washing day. Half one side done ! Paul Colbeck
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A bit of a before and after shot on the other side just before lunch. Paul Colbeck.
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It should be made clear that there is NO intention in the current project to carry out any work on the Vep car.
We understand that there is a possibility that the NRM will, in time, restore the car themselves.
Our thanks to all the volunteers who turned out in very windy weather to complete these tasks.
We understand that there is a possibility that the NRM will, in time, restore the car themselves.
Our thanks to all the volunteers who turned out in very windy weather to complete these tasks.
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
9th & 10th May 2015
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Monday 11th May 2015
We attended on the Sunday only due to most volunteers being unable to visit on Saturday.
Because the unit had not made its planned move, we inspected it to find that the axle box covers were not refitted and secured. As we did not have the necessary spanners available, the refitting has had to be delayed. Subsequently, we have had the appropriate spanners supplied by the NRM . With a new date for the move, 2nd June, two team members will visit the unit to tighten everything up.
One job that needed doing was to sort the seat cushions and backs out. As they were removed from the unit,
many were found to have deteriorated over the 19 years since the unit came out of traffic.
Because the unit had not made its planned move, we inspected it to find that the axle box covers were not refitted and secured. As we did not have the necessary spanners available, the refitting has had to be delayed. Subsequently, we have had the appropriate spanners supplied by the NRM . With a new date for the move, 2nd June, two team members will visit the unit to tighten everything up.
One job that needed doing was to sort the seat cushions and backs out. As they were removed from the unit,
many were found to have deteriorated over the 19 years since the unit came out of traffic.
Chris unloading one of badly deteriorated seats from the VEP. Paul Colbeck.
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Sorting out 2HAP seat cover into good, repair needed and full recovering. Paul Colbeck.
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These have now been sorted into three categories. Those needing just a very deep clean! Those in need of minor repair, stitching separated, small holes etc, and those needing complete moquette recovering with two seat units requiring a complete rebuild. All side panels (below windows) were also sorted. Most need the moquette replacing with a number being total write offs.
These will need to be remade from scratch.
If anyone reading this item can help us source a supply of the ‘plain’ blue moquette used in this area (and on arm rests),
please email us at [email protected] or [email protected]
The day finished with replacing the various stacks back into the Vep car to enable us to start working on them at our next working weekend in June. Our thanks to all the volunteers who turned out to help with the project.
These will need to be remade from scratch.
If anyone reading this item can help us source a supply of the ‘plain’ blue moquette used in this area (and on arm rests),
please email us at [email protected] or [email protected]
The day finished with replacing the various stacks back into the Vep car to enable us to start working on them at our next working weekend in June. Our thanks to all the volunteers who turned out to help with the project.
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
13th & 14th June 2015
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Monday 15th June 2015
The weekend did not bode well with a poor weather forecast of rain...and more rain! With the problems surrounding the move of 4308 to Shildon, delayed yet again, we were not sure where the unit would be neither were we sure if the Vep car was still in the open or under cover in the depot. The 'plan' was to continue cleaning the seat cushions and backs. This work had started last year when we experienced some good hot weather with a breeze that helped dry the seats. It turned out that the unit was still occupying the road in the 'Depot' however, the Vep car has been moved closer to the depot. Despite continuing drizzle, Rob Curtis and Chris Osman did get some interior checks done on the unit, at least it was dry inside!. One restoration task that had been overlooked was the condition of the wooden surrounds to the side windows in the saloons. Each frame was carefully checked for water damage and rot. Almost all will need the old varnish to be stripped, rubbed down and re varnished. This is a task that the York volunteers can do. However there are 2 complete frames and 3 bottom sections that will have to be remade in the motor coach. In the composite, 2 complete frames and 5 bottom sections need replacing. This may be done when / if the windows have to be removed at Shildon to effect body repairs. otherwise we will need to review who and where the new frames can be made. It is hoped that Jim Chittock specialist interior vehicle body builder can provide the expertise. By the afternoon, the rain had stopped. Rob and I sorted a selection of backs and bases from those that just needed heavy cleaning. With a liberal application of the famed 'Red Magic' cleaner, the finished articles looked nearly as good as new, just some fading where the unit had stood for so long.
Sunday brought Mark Battle along with his initial version of the NSERS Project Commuter display for the proposed fundraising event at Shildon in August. Mark, Rob and Chris spent a couple of hours working out the best display.
Sunday brought Mark Battle along with his initial version of the NSERS Project Commuter display for the proposed fundraising event at Shildon in August. Mark, Rob and Chris spent a couple of hours working out the best display.
Experimenting with display options for our proposed fundraising event to be held at Shildon. Mark Battle.
Rain stopped us cleaning any more seats until after lunch when we cracked on an got a further 6 seats and backs done. We also tidied up the first bay of the saloon in the Vep to enable all cleaned seats to be collected in one location. By rigging the luggage racks across some seat bays, will allow the cushions and backs to thoroughly dry safely in the coach.
Chris & Rob hand beating the years of dirt & dust out of the seat backs. Mark Battle.
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Seat backs drying , before going back into the VEP for safe storage. Mark Battle.
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WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
12th & 13th March 2016
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Monday 21st March 2016
A cracking weekend. It was very good to meet up with some of the team. All of us were pleased to get back together and be able to get on with the job. Saturday's team were Keith Osman, Jim Chittock, Rob Curtis, Mark Battle and Myself. A special thanks to Bob Gwynne who kindly turned out on his day off to help out and gave some very useful guidance about the next stages of the work to be carried out at York. He is confident, that we should have enough kit to ship up to Shildon for refitting into the motor coach by the end of May
Much of the equipment that was stored in the Vep car had been moved around so the first job was to unload everything! Many of the seat bases that had asbestos in them were located elsewhere in the Depot, these were moved back into our work area. Once everything was out, we looked at the soft furnishings. Seat cushions, backs and side squabs which were re-sorted by condition, details are shown below.
Much of the equipment that was stored in the Vep car had been moved around so the first job was to unload everything! Many of the seat bases that had asbestos in them were located elsewhere in the Depot, these were moved back into our work area. Once everything was out, we looked at the soft furnishings. Seat cushions, backs and side squabs which were re-sorted by condition, details are shown below.
Part of the HAP interior which was stored in the VEP. Chris Osman
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Luggage racks - sized & sorted. Chris Osman
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Seat Frame - under frame metal work. Chris Osman
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Under seat heater grills. Chris Osman.
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More under seat heater grills. Chris Osman.
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First Class seat cushions. Chris Osman.
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With luck, Anthony Coulls has sourced some surplus NSE covered seats at a preservation group. I hope they will be of the same style which will save us having to rebuild a number that are beyond repair. The cushion in front is from the Hap, the unit behind is from the Vep and is much heavier. A task which I was dreading was to sort out the various fixings which were put in numerous pots as we dismantled the interiors over 8 months ago. Keith led the charge! which resulted in all types being separated before we finished at 17.30.
Thanks to John Clark who managed to get agreement for Mark Battle to put up his display of the project in the Station Hall on Saturday. Quite a lot of interest shown by the public. Special thanks to Mark who after upgrading the display with my help on Friday, worked through to the early hours on Saturday making it look very professional.
Thanks to John Clark who managed to get agreement for Mark Battle to put up his display of the project in the Station Hall on Saturday. Quite a lot of interest shown by the public. Special thanks to Mark who after upgrading the display with my help on Friday, worked through to the early hours on Saturday making it look very professional.
Difference in seating designs. VEP ( top) - HAP (bottom). Chris Osman.
Sunday, Rob Curtis and myself spent all day cleaning nine 3-seat cushions and eleven first class seat cushions.
Jim Chittock made a start on cleaning up the metalwork which the seat units fit on. Jim has kindly offered to see if he can persuade the managers at Siemens (next door, where he is working) to put the worst condition fixings through the parts wash / cleaner.
Let's hope he is successful.
Our next weekend is on the 9/10th April when we will be prepping the aisle panels, luggage racks, and other metalwork ready for painting...lots of rubbing down and painting. We'll be continuing cleaning the remaining dirty seat backs and cushions as well.
Jim Chittock made a start on cleaning up the metalwork which the seat units fit on. Jim has kindly offered to see if he can persuade the managers at Siemens (next door, where he is working) to put the worst condition fixings through the parts wash / cleaner.
Let's hope he is successful.
Our next weekend is on the 9/10th April when we will be prepping the aisle panels, luggage racks, and other metalwork ready for painting...lots of rubbing down and painting. We'll be continuing cleaning the remaining dirty seat backs and cushions as well.
HAP Standard Class seat cushions drying out after having a good clean. Chris Osman.
Please contact me if you have any questions, usual number 01323 640387. Finally great thanks to those who turned out over the weekend.
Details of soft furnishings:
2 Seat Backs: Clean - 15; Dirty - 11; Scrap - 1
2 Seat Cushions: Clean - 16; Dirty - 14 - Scrap - 5; Other Moquette - 4
3 Seat Backs: Clean - 5; Dirty - 10; Scrap - 5
3 Seat Cushions: Clean - 12; Dirty - 1; Scrap - 5; Other moquette - 1
1st Class single cushions: Clean - 11; Other moquette - 1
Side squabs (beneath windows): Not counted - Almost all require remaking or major repair.
Chris Osman
Details of soft furnishings:
2 Seat Backs: Clean - 15; Dirty - 11; Scrap - 1
2 Seat Cushions: Clean - 16; Dirty - 14 - Scrap - 5; Other Moquette - 4
3 Seat Backs: Clean - 5; Dirty - 10; Scrap - 5
3 Seat Cushions: Clean - 12; Dirty - 1; Scrap - 5; Other moquette - 1
1st Class single cushions: Clean - 11; Other moquette - 1
Side squabs (beneath windows): Not counted - Almost all require remaking or major repair.
Chris Osman
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
9th & 10th April 2016
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Wednesday 13th April 2016
Only TWO volunteers managed to turn up, Rob Curtis and myself. Undaunted, we started by clearing some floor space by putting the cushions cleaned on the last working weekend into the Vep, we then set about starting the restoration of the luggage racks and under seat grills. Saturday was spent rubbing down eleven luggage racks and ten grills.
Sunday we decided to paint as many as we could to get a feel for the time needed to complete the task.
Roughly, it took 30 minutes to paint each unit, we achieved 7 racks and 5 grills.
Sunday we decided to paint as many as we could to get a feel for the time needed to complete the task.
Roughly, it took 30 minutes to paint each unit, we achieved 7 racks and 5 grills.
Rob preparing luggage racks for painting on the Saturday. Chris Osman.
Luggage racks freshly painted in undercoat on Saturday. Chris Osman.
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Sundays progress saw more luggage racks and grills in undercoat. Chris Osman.
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My concern is the time we have to provide for the completion of all units needing to be restored. If there is anyone prepared to come to York, (our next weekend is 14/15th May) to help we would be pleased to hear from you.
Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387
Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
14th & 15th May 2016
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Wednesday 25th May April 2016
While Shildon team have been making excellent progress with the body repairs, Our small team of volunteers have been busy at York working on the restoration of the interior fittings and furniture removed from the unit prior to its move to Shildon. After the enforced delay from June 2015 to March 2016 we have made ex excellent progress cleaning seat bases and backs along with the preparation and undercoat painting of the luggage racks and under seat heater grills. The painting is taking much longer than I had hoped, this is down to the design of the racks and making sure all surfaces are painted. Bars are the most boring parts to do!
Rob hard at work continuing to clean the luggage rack. Mark Battle
Keith Osman and Mark Battle made serious inroads to the seat cleaning at our last weekend, Keith knocking six bells out of the backs to remove most of the dust accumulated in service and 19 years stored while Mark was busy applying the cleaning agent, Red Magic, rinsing each unit off with clean (to start with!) water, finally placing them in the Vep car to thoroughly dry off.
Keith 'knocking six bells' out of a seat cusion. Mark Battle
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Seating backs cleaned - AFTER & BEFORE. Mark Battle
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If anyone is still prepared to come to York, you are more than welcome to join us.
(our next working weekend is 9th/10th July) and we would be pleased to hear from you.
Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387
(our next working weekend is 9th/10th July) and we would be pleased to hear from you.
Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
9th & 10th July 2016
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Wednesday 13th July 2016
Project Commuter volunteer weekend at York for June had to be cancelled, however we did get to York this month, attending were Chris and Keith Osman and Ian Shepherd. Saturday was spent continuing with the repainting of internal fittings, luggage racks and under seat grills. Keith also tested one of the aisle panels to establish how much work would be needed to bring them back to life. He tested an area which seemed to be in poor condition, after a light sanding and a wash down, the veneer came back to life. Once dried, it looks as if will still need a coat of varnish to complete the restoration. The little amount of work reflects on the excellent work done at Eastleigh when the unit was built back in 1959.
Sunday was not a good day, there was a problem with the fire alarm system, meaning that there was an evacuation of the museum. Chris, Ian, were joined by Rob Curtis who had not been allowed to enter.. We were then told by the security team that we were unable to remain in the depot so having just got everything ready and just starting to paint, we had to put everything away. Only an hour worked!
There is good news from Shildon, A section of the bodyside of coach 61275 has had a coat of primer applied.
(Pictures of this work can be seen further down this page).
Our next working weekend in York takes place on the 10th & 11th September 2016.
Please Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387 if you were like to join us.
Sunday was not a good day, there was a problem with the fire alarm system, meaning that there was an evacuation of the museum. Chris, Ian, were joined by Rob Curtis who had not been allowed to enter.. We were then told by the security team that we were unable to remain in the depot so having just got everything ready and just starting to paint, we had to put everything away. Only an hour worked!
There is good news from Shildon, A section of the bodyside of coach 61275 has had a coat of primer applied.
(Pictures of this work can be seen further down this page).
Our next working weekend in York takes place on the 10th & 11th September 2016.
Please Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387 if you were like to join us.
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
10th &11th September 2016
Report by Chris Osman. Photos taken by Paul Colbeck
Posted : Saturday 17th September 2016
There was no working weekend in August so there was plenty to get on with. Following the progress meeting held on Friday 9th, we were all buzzing to announce that the Friends of the NRM have kindly donated £35,000 towards the ongoing restoration of the 2Hap, 4308. The Vep DTC from unit 3545 which we have used to store most of the internal fittings from the Hap is being relocated to the East Kent Railway which meant that we had to unload all the contents from the coach. This allowed us to do a full updated inventory of all the material, specifying the quantity of every piece as well as its condition. The NRM kindly provided some thick plastic sheet to lay on the ground to prevent the soft furnishings from getting damaged pending the sourcing of more suitable shelving for storage.
This process took up all of our efforts on the Saturday.
This process took up all of our efforts on the Saturday.
The plastic sheeting is laid out on the ground to protect the parts of 4308, prior to be unloaded from the VEP.
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Seating laid out on the plastic sheeting and recorded on a manifest to plan future work.
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The team on Sunday spent the whole day cleaning and rubbing down the remaining under seat grills and luggage racks and painting various grills in undercoat and final gloss paint.The team were Keith Osman, Mark Battle, John Piper (Sat), Rob Curtis, Mark Davies (Sun) Paul Colbeck and Chris Osman (both days).
There are still a large number of grills, luggage racks to finish painting with a start still to be made on the aisle (wood) panels and cleaning / repainting the frames on which the seat units are mounted. We still have 15 seat units requiring substantial repair or complete recovering and many others needing minor repairs, not needing new moquette.
There are still a large number of grills, luggage racks to finish painting with a start still to be made on the aisle (wood) panels and cleaning / repainting the frames on which the seat units are mounted. We still have 15 seat units requiring substantial repair or complete recovering and many others needing minor repairs, not needing new moquette.
Rob Curtis and Mark Davis busy cleaning heater grills.
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Chris Osman painting heater grills, with Rob and Mark still preparing in the background.
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We are hoping that the October weekend will be as well supported as there is still lots of work to do.
Further photos taken from the weeknd can be viewed here:
Saturday 10th September 2016 by Paul Colbeck
Sunday 11th September 2016 by Paul Colbeck
Saturday 10th September 2016 by Paul Colbeck
Sunday 11th September 2016 by Paul Colbeck
WORKING WEEKEND AT YORK
8th & 9th October 2016
Report by Chris Osman. Photos as credited.
Posted : Tuesday 11th October 2016
The October working weekend has been an outstanding success. Five of the team arrived on Saturday, Chris &
Keith Osman, Paul Colbeck, Rob Curtis and Mark Davies. We soon had sorted the items painted last month and
set to painting many luggage racks and under seat grills. Mark and Rob on undercoat with Keith, Paul and Chris
on gloss. By the end of the day, we were surrounded by part and finished units. It is surprising how much can be
achieved when we get a good turnout and the will to get on.
Keith Osman, Paul Colbeck, Rob Curtis and Mark Davies. We soon had sorted the items painted last month and
set to painting many luggage racks and under seat grills. Mark and Rob on undercoat with Keith, Paul and Chris
on gloss. By the end of the day, we were surrounded by part and finished units. It is surprising how much can be
achieved when we get a good turnout and the will to get on.
Rob & Mark D. undercoating heater grills on the Saturday.
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Heater grills undercoated on the Saturday.
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Sunday was a short day finishing at 14.00 due to filming in the area. Paul, Chris and Rob were joined by Mark Battle. Knowing we didn't have long, we had started by 10.00. with no breaks, we had completed almost all the luggage racks
and undercoated most of the grills by the time we had to stop. We decided to have a good tidy up before leaving.
The site now looks very clean and tidy. I'm looking forward to the November weekend when I foresee that all
the racks and grills will be finished.
and undercoated most of the grills by the time we had to stop. We decided to have a good tidy up before leaving.
The site now looks very clean and tidy. I'm looking forward to the November weekend when I foresee that all
the racks and grills will be finished.
Chris giving luggage rack final coat on the Sunday.
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Paul giving luggage rack final coat on the Sunday.
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Further photos taken from the weeknd can be viewed here:
Saturday 8th October 2016 by Paul Colbeck
Sunday 9th October 2016 by Paul Colbeck
Saturday 8th October 2016 by Paul Colbeck
Sunday 9th October 2016 by Paul Colbeck
Thanks to all the team that turned out and hope that we will see them all again next month.
Our next working weekend in York takes place on the 12th & 13th Novermber 2016.
Please Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387 if you were like to join us.
Our next working weekend in York takes place on the 12th & 13th Novermber 2016.
Please Email: [email protected] Or telephone: 01323 640387 if you were like to join us.
Co Project Manager, Paul Colbeck and Webmaster Mark Battle visited Shildon on the 16th October. Progress is remarkable with much of the repair and replating well under way on 61275. A lot of the body has now been sanded down revealing the paint 'life' of the car. They saw areas where the paint has been carefully removed to reveal all the previous paint layers, blue and even down to the green as used when constructed in 1959. We will be publishing a selection of pictures taken then on this page in the near future so keep watching! Paul Colbeck will be posting a link to a Flickr album which contains all 47 pictures he took on the day. We wish to thank the team at Shildon for their hospitality and time taken to explain all that is being done to this coach.
In the meantime, we hope to resume our working weekends at York in November when we will be starting to restore the current collector gear that has been kept at the NRM.It is possible that we will be looking for a few new volunteers in the New Year to speed up the restoration so as to complete it by June. If you are interested and can get to York for one weekend (usually the second) every month, please email Paul at [email protected] and Chris Osman at [email protected]
In the meantime, we hope to resume our working weekends at York in November when we will be starting to restore the current collector gear that has been kept at the NRM.It is possible that we will be looking for a few new volunteers in the New Year to speed up the restoration so as to complete it by June. If you are interested and can get to York for one weekend (usually the second) every month, please email Paul at [email protected] and Chris Osman at [email protected]
WORK IS PROGRESSING AT SHILDON
Taken April 2016
Photos by Richard Pearson NRM/Locomotion Shildon.
PROJECT MANAGER'S VISIT TO SHILDON
30th April 2016
Report and Photos by Chris Osman.
Posted : Tuesday 10th May 2016
Chris Osman, Project Manager visited Locomotion, Shildon on the 30th April where the 2Hap is undergoing restoration in the museum workshops. Only one car can be worked on at present, this being motor coach 61275.
After many delays since its arrival last June, progress is now well under way.
After many delays since its arrival last June, progress is now well under way.
General view of drivers side
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Drivers side paint being stripped
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The roof has been stripped with the team currently applying a protective (green) primer which can be seen is some of the pictures.The task of removing paint from the bodysides is going very well with the secondmans side almost completely stripped which is allowing any corrosion to be discovered and rectified. The worst damage, so far is at the bottom of the body work, always a problem in these units. There is some evidence of corrosion round the saloon doors and some of the windows which is still to be addressed . Some sections have been cut out of the side below the cab window to assess the overall condition of this area, the last to be stripped. Again the area below the cab windows has always been subject to heavy corrosion. The guards van doors being steel have been removed for reconstruction, being beyond repair. The saloon doors are of alloy construction and are in very good condition.There is some severe rotting to the interior floor around some doors. Again this has to be investigated with a decision made to either strip the floor throughout the car or to see how far into the interior the rot has reached with remedial action being taken.
Drivers side - corroded section removed from first bay behind the guards brake. The door is being held in place by the metal support at the foot The side pillar has all but disintegrated.
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General view of secondmans side
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The drivers side is still being stripped of paint, its removal has uncovered greater corrosion issues with much more steel / rust having to be removed prior to replating. There is a far greater problem with corrosion round the saloon doors, some of the door pillars (on which the doors hang) having virtually rotted away. Again the area below the cab window has yet to be stripped, it is anticipated that there will be substantial corrosion here. We believe this side must have been more open to the elements, corrosion being far greater. The underframe is now fully painted in green, corrosion resistant, primer. Some parts have now been painted black which really gives an indication of the progress to the vehicle.
Secondmans side. Guards van doors off. Bogie with components painted black.
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Secondmans side. Close up of door entrance showing the rotten floor.
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Meanwhile at York, there is steady progress with the restoration of the interior fittings removed prior to the unit being moved to Shildon. Working weekends take place on the second weekend of each month. If anyone is interested in helping the project at York, please contact Chris Osman by email [email protected] or by calling 01323 640387.
RESTORATION TEAM VISIT TO SHILDON
13th May 2016
Report by Chris Osman. Photos by Paul Colbeck.
Posted : Wednesday 25th May 2016
Paul Colbeck and Mark Battle visited Locomotion, Shildon to install a display about the project and to update the photographic record of the work being carried out on the motor coach 61275. Following my visit at the end of April, it is clear that much progress is being made to the coach. It is hoped that the workshop team will be ready to start applying the NSE livery in the late summer. The project has now acquired an official drawing of the NSE livery specification for a 2Hap unit. This is now with Shildon who can now ensure that the livery, when applied will be to the official drawing. I am advised today that the workshop team have now made a start on cutting in new steel plate to the areas with the worst corrosion. It feels that we are really making good progress with the project.
Mark Battle showing off the newly installed 'Project Commuter' display at Shildon. Paul Colbeck.
LATEST PROGRESS AT SHILDON
Photos by Richard Pearson NRM Locomotion.
Posted : Thursday 14th July 2016
A section of the bodyside of coach 61275 has had a coat of primer recently applied.
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FURTHER PROGRESS AT SHILDON
Photos by Richard Pearson NRM Locomotion.
Posted : Monday 12th September 2016
The bodyside of coach 61275 has achieved further progress in it's restoration.
RESTORATION TEAM VISIT TO SHILDON
21st September 2016
Photos by Paul Colbeck.
Posted : Monday 26th September 2016
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Volunteers Paul Colbeck and Mark Battle once again travelled to Shildon to view the excellent progress being
undertaken by the Locomotion team. Whilst there they also took the opportunity to investigate how a fixed display
of the restoration could be installed at Shildon in mid 2017.
Paul as usual recorded the day on his camera which can be viewed on the link below.
undertaken by the Locomotion team. Whilst there they also took the opportunity to investigate how a fixed display
of the restoration could be installed at Shildon in mid 2017.
Paul as usual recorded the day on his camera which can be viewed on the link below.
WORKING WEEKENDS IN YORK 2016
Our next working weekend takes place on the 13th and 14th November 2016.
If you happen to be visiting the National Railway Museum on these dates, why not come and see us hard at work in
'The Depot' - which is located in the South Yard. It may even inspire you to come and join us in the restoration at a later date.
Our next working weekend takes place on the 13th and 14th November 2016.
If you happen to be visiting the National Railway Museum on these dates, why not come and see us hard at work in
'The Depot' - which is located in the South Yard. It may even inspire you to come and join us in the restoration at a later date.
Page last revised : Thursday 26th July 2018 at 15:06
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